Okay! I've done soo much testing now, across several tubes, at least a dozen different sleeves, etc.
not a whole lot of good news tho, but I'm sort of kind of making progress, I think.
So far, I've listed my concerns, in descending order of how much of a problem they are
1. underside edema (most difficult and annoying issue by far)
2. Blisters: glans caps, that don't allow for air bubbles, work perfectly. the only con is they break or permanently deform extremely easily. just using a larger tube works well too.
3. no girth work: I wanna gain length, and I feel like the more girth I have, the harder that might be, so I try to limit girth gains. more girth means I have to use a larger tube, which is uncomfortable at the base, and more pressingly, id have more skin exposed near the glans for edema.
4. Base pain on pelvis: smaller tube, less pain.
5. tearing or diforming of silicone sleeve and caps: seriously, it's getting expensive.
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Re: Starting my very own pumping thread.
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Notes on the underside edema problem (underside donut)
-Prelude99 suggests just letting them exist, and eventually they will not be an issue. I feel like he might just be lucky tho, because if you look at his photos post pump, his donuts come out incredibly uniform across both the underside and dorsal side. I'm sure it wasn't like this always for him, but mine only forms at the bottom (underside), and a lot. my dorsal shaft skin is so tight that by the time my underside donut is a Balloon eclipsing my glans, my top shaft is still 100% edema free. If I let edema happen, I can't imagine how it wouldn't just get worse, cause I'll just grow more and more underside shaft skin. (edit: apparently he's uncut. sigh. I really wish I was uncut)
-A couple things have reduced the edema. a silicone ring that pulls specifically on the underside skin, tightening it sort of helped a bit. a larger tube also weirdly helped a bit, since I guess the pressure isn't exclusively forward, and more distributed. a silicone sleeve covering the underside skin helped a tiny bit. lower pressure obviously, but even at 5hg, the edema is really hard to prevent.
-only one thing so far has completely eliminated it, and it is a very very tight silicone glans cap I had that covered both the glans, and the circ scar where the edema would form. it broke tho after use, so that sucks. also, it made blisters worse cause there would always be some air under the cap no matter what I'd do, so hopefully I'll find a better solution.
I'm not really sure what to try next..
-Prelude99 suggests just letting them exist, and eventually they will not be an issue. I feel like he might just be lucky tho, because if you look at his photos post pump, his donuts come out incredibly uniform across both the underside and dorsal side. I'm sure it wasn't like this always for him, but mine only forms at the bottom (underside), and a lot. my dorsal shaft skin is so tight that by the time my underside donut is a Balloon eclipsing my glans, my top shaft is still 100% edema free. If I let edema happen, I can't imagine how it wouldn't just get worse, cause I'll just grow more and more underside shaft skin. (edit: apparently he's uncut. sigh. I really wish I was uncut)
-A couple things have reduced the edema. a silicone ring that pulls specifically on the underside skin, tightening it sort of helped a bit. a larger tube also weirdly helped a bit, since I guess the pressure isn't exclusively forward, and more distributed. a silicone sleeve covering the underside skin helped a tiny bit. lower pressure obviously, but even at 5hg, the edema is really hard to prevent.
-only one thing so far has completely eliminated it, and it is a very very tight silicone glans cap I had that covered both the glans, and the circ scar where the edema would form. it broke tho after use, so that sucks. also, it made blisters worse cause there would always be some air under the cap no matter what I'd do, so hopefully I'll find a better solution.
I'm not really sure what to try next..
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this seems really dumb, but what if I just.. tie the edema prone part? 


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Re: Starting my very own pumping thread.
It sounds like you have put in a bit of effort in trying to figure out how to get the best positive affects out of your sessions and they haven't turned out how you expected. Many of those same things were my main issues in the beginning and I was determined to either correct or use them to my benefit.
- Underside Expansion with lack of dorsal expansion -
What I determined was the areas the expanded faster were just going to do that and I decided to use that to my advantage. I would allow the extreme growth of the under side to happen then I would massage after and do it in a way that would relocate the edema to the dorsal side causing that tight skin to begin to stretch more. Then I would go back in the tube to expand the underside again and massage with edema relocation and eventually the entire shaft started expanding at the same rate when pumping. It took several months of consistent massaging and skin rolling to make that happen.
- Blisters -
I took a strange approach with these and wanted to learn more about them and how to prevent and correct them quickly. Some sessions I would deliberately try to get blisters as big and as many as possible so I could essentially study them and know where I would get them. It sounds bad but it wasn't totally bad. They were all water blisters, top level skin deep, no pain just built up fluid. I learned how not to get deep ones that are painful and how to deal with surface water blisters during my sessions to keep them from expanding and becoming an issue where I'll need to stop my session for a few hours.
They heal extremely fast on me with my methods and usually I'll be pumping full session pressure by the next day.
- Gaining Girth to Gain Length -
Oh the conundrum. It's a mixed thought process for many but I'll speak on my experience of not being focused on gaining length from pumping but really expecting to gain a ton of girth! With that focus as I got thicker I got longer and just BIGGER overall. So I wouldn't stray away from gaining more girth. You will gain an overall bigger piece if you allow it to become as thick as possible. I reach my longest lengths after packing my 4" only cock.
- Base pain / Silicone Sleeves -
These are such a pain and really there isn't a great solution to either. The solution I went with was wide flange cylinders that don't require a silicone seal. So it eliminates the constant replacements of those that seem to disintegrate after one session! Also over time your base area will become more trained to the pressure against it and it won't bother near as much.
I hope I covered most of the things you have been going through and shed some light on my practices. I too am cut but wanted the uniformity of the uncut crowd so I focused on getting my skin to roll over my head and stay there while under pressure in tube. Pumping is super fun and just takes time and patience and learning yourself. Figuring out how your junk reacts to certain techniques and rhythms.
A request I have is to see you in tube under pressure to get an idea of how you are expanding.
Keep it GIRTHY!!
- Underside Expansion with lack of dorsal expansion -
What I determined was the areas the expanded faster were just going to do that and I decided to use that to my advantage. I would allow the extreme growth of the under side to happen then I would massage after and do it in a way that would relocate the edema to the dorsal side causing that tight skin to begin to stretch more. Then I would go back in the tube to expand the underside again and massage with edema relocation and eventually the entire shaft started expanding at the same rate when pumping. It took several months of consistent massaging and skin rolling to make that happen.
- Blisters -
I took a strange approach with these and wanted to learn more about them and how to prevent and correct them quickly. Some sessions I would deliberately try to get blisters as big and as many as possible so I could essentially study them and know where I would get them. It sounds bad but it wasn't totally bad. They were all water blisters, top level skin deep, no pain just built up fluid. I learned how not to get deep ones that are painful and how to deal with surface water blisters during my sessions to keep them from expanding and becoming an issue where I'll need to stop my session for a few hours.
They heal extremely fast on me with my methods and usually I'll be pumping full session pressure by the next day.
- Gaining Girth to Gain Length -
Oh the conundrum. It's a mixed thought process for many but I'll speak on my experience of not being focused on gaining length from pumping but really expecting to gain a ton of girth! With that focus as I got thicker I got longer and just BIGGER overall. So I wouldn't stray away from gaining more girth. You will gain an overall bigger piece if you allow it to become as thick as possible. I reach my longest lengths after packing my 4" only cock.
- Base pain / Silicone Sleeves -
These are such a pain and really there isn't a great solution to either. The solution I went with was wide flange cylinders that don't require a silicone seal. So it eliminates the constant replacements of those that seem to disintegrate after one session! Also over time your base area will become more trained to the pressure against it and it won't bother near as much.
I hope I covered most of the things you have been going through and shed some light on my practices. I too am cut but wanted the uniformity of the uncut crowd so I focused on getting my skin to roll over my head and stay there while under pressure in tube. Pumping is super fun and just takes time and patience and learning yourself. Figuring out how your junk reacts to certain techniques and rhythms.
A request I have is to see you in tube under pressure to get an idea of how you are expanding.
Keep it GIRTHY!!
Biggest cock only pumping!
10"+ X 13.5"+ MegaHUGE is my way, anything less is just HUGE, lol!
10"+ X 13.5"+ MegaHUGE is my way, anything less is just HUGE, lol!
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Hey prelude! thanks for the response! been doing a lot more testing and I haven't been online in a while, but I really do appreciate the message.
on your underside expansion: that is crazy. I can't even push the edema manually lower down the shaft, let alone to the dorsal side. it's great that worked for you tho, but that legit seems physically impossible for my anatomy. for me, if it appears in an area, it stays in that area until it's gone after like 30-40 hours.
on base pain: I know! the silicone sleeves just get eradicated whenever they're forced to stretch for over an hour, tears and everything and it's a mess. it's really good to know that the base area gets more tolerant over time and I was wondering about that. I currently deal with the pain by sticking to a small 1.75in tube, as it seems the smaller tubes hurt way less in general for me, but about wide flange.. are there any you recommend, and have you tried LA pump? I'm looking at their elliptical, and the flanges look massive, but I don't know if they might even be too big, and end up being inconvenient for other reasons.
on your underside expansion: that is crazy. I can't even push the edema manually lower down the shaft, let alone to the dorsal side. it's great that worked for you tho, but that legit seems physically impossible for my anatomy. for me, if it appears in an area, it stays in that area until it's gone after like 30-40 hours.
on base pain: I know! the silicone sleeves just get eradicated whenever they're forced to stretch for over an hour, tears and everything and it's a mess. it's really good to know that the base area gets more tolerant over time and I was wondering about that. I currently deal with the pain by sticking to a small 1.75in tube, as it seems the smaller tubes hurt way less in general for me, but about wide flange.. are there any you recommend, and have you tried LA pump? I'm looking at their elliptical, and the flanges look massive, but I don't know if they might even be too big, and end up being inconvenient for other reasons.
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Re: Starting my very own pumping thread.
Current state of pumping: made some big progress. using a 1.75 in tube to address excessive girth expansion and much more importantly base pain, a small silicone ring to cover most of my bottom donut area, and low pressure to prevent blisters (3inHG, which, in a packed tube, feels like 6inHG in a non packed tube) and am managing to not get too mush undesirable deformation, and somewhat comfortably pump literally all day. I'll keep this up for a month or two and see how it goes.
it's not perfect. the silicone ring still let's some donuting occur, but it's not nearly as bad, and I'm looking for a better but similar solution. base still hurts sometimes, which I guess is a good sign that I'm using enough pressure despite the gauge reporting such a low number, but I might get something with bigger flanges..
for the last 3 days, I literally stay in the pump when I wake up, and try to keep it on when I go to bed (but it seems to come off at night still). I only take it off to bathroom, and if for whatever reason I need to go out
it's not perfect. the silicone ring still let's some donuting occur, but it's not nearly as bad, and I'm looking for a better but similar solution. base still hurts sometimes, which I guess is a good sign that I'm using enough pressure despite the gauge reporting such a low number, but I might get something with bigger flanges..
for the last 3 days, I literally stay in the pump when I wake up, and try to keep it on when I go to bed (but it seems to come off at night still). I only take it off to bathroom, and if for whatever reason I need to go out
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Re: Starting my very own pumping thread.
Days 3 for ALL day, nonstop, low pressure pumping

-manageable base pain
-no blisters
-90% reduced donut/underside edema

-manageable base pain
-no blisters
-90% reduced donut/underside edema
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I am using a sleeve that I made as the “tube” and a gasket with a pressure vessel. I put the sleeve on with soap and then wash it off before unfolding so it sticks in place.
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Any updates @thithothith?