My Surgilube journey *added pics*

[Squirrel]

For me the SL in my shaft just feels like a couple big squishy areas. On the right side it extends a little toward the top of the shaft and there's one hard spot about 3/8" around where I did my last small 5ml top up. The left side is just squishy and extends a little toward the bottom of my shaft. If you took a cross section of it, it would look like an oval not quite on its side. When I'm soft my head pulls back and the SL rolls over it a little. When I'm hard the soft lumps from the Ssl are about midway down the shaft.

It's definitely not hard. Depending on your partners preferences and openness it could be a big turnoff for the erection to not feel hard. The best way to describe it is like a normal erection surrounded by some saline. The skin felt a little stretched only when hard during the first couple days after an add when it swelled up the most. Other than that the skin has not felt taxed at all.

One super weird thing I've got on the left side that I wish I could reproduce is that I can move the SL mass toward the tip or back to the base of my shaft by lightly squeezing it. It's an on demand donut! If I could have my whole shaft like that I'd be ecstatic!

Needle insertion hurts quite a bit more in the shaft than in the scrotum. It also seems to be much easier to have complications in the shaft since the tissue/area being filled is so small. You don't want to hit the corpus cavernosa but you want to be far enough under the skin for it not to cut off blood flow to the outer layers and cause necrosis.

[Bobbybass]

Thanks Squirrel for the detailed info. Your last scenario there I feel like what had happened to me the last time. Or complications from not going deep enough anyway. The skin on the exterior looks OK still. But inside the outer layer of skin I have really hard webbing that moves around with the skin. It's only now starting to soften and feel less unnoticeable.
I wouldn't want to go huge huge, but just a little bit extra. My biggest concern is if it encapsulates hard like in the sack. So I just wanted to hear from some experienced people about it. I once read a guy that mixed it with saline and had said it spreads much better in the shaft to be nice and even, but it don't last as long. Which I'm ok with. Better to practice that way anyway I think.
Pumping is supposed to help spread it too correct? I have to get a new cylinder, my last one was a bit to small, and it was a smoked color so I didn't like it anyway. It was just a cheap sex store one. So I think I'll order a new one before attempting this as well.
Being completely honest here, about the not being hard and my partner not liking that... I've been really struggling with pe, it's so bad what when I get it in, I'm done. So even if it was softer than it should be, if it helps makes it less sensitive for me, my wife probably won't care if it helps me go longer. I've tried a bunch of stuff, the only think that ever really helped was if had a puff before hand , and I don't mind once and a while , but I don't really do that very often.
So originally when I tried it, it was my understanding it would be soft and squishy, and my hope was it would help be less sensitive for me, and that was my motivation to try it. But it was a different surgical lube as well, so that may have been the issue too. But in any case, I wanted to double check here from active experienced people before attempting again. I thought it was supposed to be soft, but like I said I had hard encapsulated webbing inside the skin layer from the last time, but I just didn't do it right, and used not the right stuff.

[Bobbybass]

I guess now, how far up or down the shaft is a good spot to inject? I'm not cut also. You don't go to close to the base right, so probably mid or closer to the tip? And you do the sides not the top. How much would be a good first try? Like only 5mls maybe? Or 10? Per side.

[Bobbybass]

Hey everyone. So I'm at it again. Thursday night I had some time and decided it was time. I did this round differently than before and is how I will be doing it from now on. It was easier, quicker and less messing around.
I took 2 20ml syringes, pulled out the plungers and filled the with sl. Slowly to avoid as much air bubbles as possible. They were over filled, right to the too. I put the plunger in enough for them to snap in, stood them upright and let them sit so the air bubbles would rise to the too. They were good to go around 5 minutes or so.
In the meantime, I prepped with alcohol wipes, got everything lined up ready to go. I took the 100ml saline bag, filled up a 20ml syringe and stood it up. I inserted the catheter on the right side first. I found they were harder to push in than normal, as the skin on the bottom of my sac feels thicker than it used to. I was warm and loose and relaxed. But I got it in. I attached the saline syringe and started injecting. I got about 10mls in and that's when I noticed a small hard ball forming. And this is exactly the reason I like to do saline first. I wasn't deep enough. Also with the saline you can pull the plunger back after adding some to see if you get blood. So I aborted this, I sealed the spot and moved onto the left.
The left was still a bit harder to insert. But I got it. Pushed in the 20ml saline, it spread out good. By this time the sl syringes were good to go. So I pushed out the air and pushed out more until I was at the 20ml mark. I attached and pushed it all in. Painless went fairly easy. Sealed it up all good. So then I grabbed another catheter and tried the right side again. This time the 20ml saline went in good and spread out. Repeat the same process over again with the sl. Sealed up, cleaned everything up. Feeling really good as first time in a long time and it was a success. And just time to wait for the swell.
It did not swell as much as it did previous times when the saline and sl were mixed. Which was surprising to me. The next day at the peak I measured 12" and ever since I'm between 11" and 12" depending how warm and loose it is. The second day I had some very mild discomfort. Not at the injection points, but towards the bottom of my sac where the sl was . But less discomfort than I remember. And that was it. I feel great now the last 2 days. Still maintaining size, it feels good and natural for now. And no fever or other symptoms like that just like previous times for me. Maybe I'm just lucky and miss that part.Never had fever yet, knock on wood.
So in the next couple of days if nothing changes I want to do 20ml more per size. My only thing now is, I don't know what I want to do, do I add to the current mass, or do I add along side it?
I'm hoping someone else can weight in on this and give me opinions. I never tried injecting into a mass before. I've read about others doing it. I'm just wondering if I should try it, or avoid it for now, pros and cons. That sort of thing. What do you guys think?

[Bobbybass]

Ok folks, update 2. After my first add last week, June 20th. I wasn't quite happy with the size, it didn't swell nearly as much as it did previous tries when mixed in the saline.
When I mixed it in saline before the swell afterwards was very comparable to the times if tired 5%dex in .09 saline.
So when I wasn't getting that reaction this time it was kinda disappointing. I asked here about adding more so soon after a add, and I didn't get any responses. So ultimately I decided to go ahead and do it anyway. So this takes us to yesterday morning, June 24th. 4 days after my first add.
I setup the same as my last try. Filling the syringes first so let the airbubbles rise. Got out my saline to inject a bit first. And I decided to try injecting into the previous mass. I started on the right side first. I inserted the catheter around the same place as previous, and into the mass. It went in easy and pain free. I added 20ml of saline first, went in well no issues. Then I added 20mls of sl with ease. Hole sealed up nice and easy without the need for and pressure on the sight first.

At this point I'm super excited it's going to easy. So I insert the catheter on the left side, same thing, Around the same spot, into the mass. It went pretty good, felt a little harder to push in than the right side, but it's in. So I tried the saline. It was very difficult to push in, I tried moving it around slightly and I could only get in about 5mls. So I aborted. I got a new catheter and tried a little farther over to the left and into the mass, again it went in not bad, but a little harder than the first side. And again. I could slowly get saline in but it was hard. So I tried switching to the sl syringe to see and no way I could push it in. So abort again.
So I got another catheter and inserted it not in the mass, but along side it, indetween the mass and my ball. Saline went in as expected and sl went in easy after that. The sl started to sting a bite right at the end, but I may have pushed it in a little bit fast at that point. This hole was a bit harder to seal. I had to hold pressure on it for a few minutes before the bandaid. But it sealed up.
So now, I got a swell to 13" hours later, and I'm holding there so far. It feels good. No fever or any of that. Last night before bed the left side that gave me trouble is sore, but not bad. The right side that went into the mass had zero discomfort. Now the left side where I went into a new spot is much bigger than the right side. My left side bulges out more to the side and my right side is bigger on the bottom.
So today I have zero discomfort, my left side is bruising a bit , likely because 3 tries before I got it. But no soreness.
I'd really like to add more to the right side, I'm thinking in the same spot I did as the left to try and even it out a bit. No I know it's not going to be prefect. But my left side does have 2 masses no and the right side only has the 1. So I think if I did the same on the right side it will be at least better than it is now.
I'd almost like to do it today as I have the time. But I may wait until Thursday, just to let this settle a couple days and see.

Opinions anyone?

Also I realize that my thread here probably isn't getting as much traffic as others, and I'm thinking it's likely because I have no photos. I'm honestly not 100 % comfortable posting photos. However I did just take a few and I think i may add them. And I'll edit the title to reflect.

[Bobbybass]

Here's so pictures. You can see how the right side bulges out more than the left. However of I lift my sack ot appears the same size either side. It does have the same amounts both sides, just in different places.
I may want to add more on the left to try and make that side bulge as well and then just leave it all for a few weeks to see how it goes.


Edit, ugh I don't know why they are upside down lol

[Bobbybass]

Little update. Currently sitting at 13 when warm and 12 when cold. Seems to be holding there well. Still no fever and no discomfort aside the initial discomfort around 6 hours after injection just for the night.
I can see really well now where I need to inject to try to even it out. At first I thought I would just add to the right side, however now I can see good where I need to add to the left side as well if I want to try and even it.
So if all goes well for the rest pf the night and tomorrow. I'm thinking I may add 20ml more each side tomorrow night. That should take me right around my goal of 15 I'd say. Then I will leave it for a while to let it settle and see where it ends up.

[Bobbybass]

And another update. I was really hoping to do another add tonight. But during the day encapsulation has begun. Currently sitting at 13.5" when everything is cold and tight. And so far today it's staying as if it's cold and tight no matter how warm it is. It was like this the last times for me as well.
There is one spot on my left side that is tender but not to bad so far anyway. It's in the area that was added a bit higher up so that's likely why.
I was really hoping to get one last add in before enclosure started. But now it'll be 2 or 3 weeks anyways before I do more. Let this settle and see where I end up. It will give me more time ro order some more supplies anyway.
And next time I'll take some better pictures, and try to get them right side up. It's weird because they were right side up in my phone. Not sure why it did that.

[just4me]

Just some advice,
Check out the ideal size you have in mind before you go for it.
--Saline or pumping
My life at 16" was really rough.
15" meant I couldn't meet the office dress code. Then had to meet with HR who sent me to a doc who in turn basically wrote me an excuse not knowing what was really going on.

my goal since then has been to stay around 14" and maintain this will maintenance adds of 10-15 cc.
I have found ways to cope with being 14-15" all the time.

I dont know what your lifestyle of job is but... just make sure that 15" will work for you.

[Bobbybass]

Yea I know, I've put lots of thought into it, and ive pumped lots and saline and d5ns before . If been to the 19 20 range. And I've been 15. 15 was a decent number for me.
Currently 13.5, but I can't really try to hide it as it's a bit tender so I'm just letting it all out front right now, so it is a bit noticeable. But before tonight it wasn't noticeable at all. So I feel I can pull off 15 no problem. I'm a pretty big guy and tall. So 15 for me wouldn't be quite the same as 15 for someone shorter.
Having been at 15 before with pumps and small saline infusions I feel very comfortable being in that range.
But I totally hear you. It is addictive and very easy to over do it. But where this isn't like saline or a pump, I'm very aware that these adds will be around for a long time at the very least, and potentially permanent. And ive read others stories and life problems and so on.
But thanks for your input. I very much appreciate it. I enjoy hearing others thoughts and opinions. There's not really a whole lot of people who have dipped into this hobby, so the more info out there is good for others who may be interested. Whether it's good info or bad. Gotta put the bad in there too if there's any, so people can make a informative decision. It's definitely not for everyone. Personally I loved pumping and saline. But it's just so time consuming to keep up on it. I just don't have that time anymore. So I decided if I can be smaller but more semi permanent, with less time taken out for it, then that workes for me. I'd love to go way bigger for just a couple of days here and there but a good pump could be hours for a couple days in a row. Where this is taking 30 to 45 minutes and done. Do that a couple of times and I'll be that size for a long time. Kind of a compromise.
And I can't even explain it, or understand why it makes sense. It just does, I have way more confident when I'm pumped or infused or swelled up with sl. Lots of people wouldn't make sense of it or understand. I don't lol. But it just does. And I feel good. So that's why I dove into this. And I've been reading others stories for years, and it took a long time to decide this, and build up the balls (pardon the pun)lol to do it.

[just4me]

I’ve never done saline. I think its marginally longer lasting than pumping?
Been pumping for 7-8 years now. Was trying to make it to the 18” club. Close but no cigar,
With this stuff you can stay around 13 and pump for 30 minutes and be between 14” and 15”. AND it stays that size or above the starting size for days.

It does make sense. For me I think more abut having something I can control in my life. Even though it gets out of control sometimes.
I think smaller adds eventually disappear or become so small they cant be found.
My largest adds have been here for over a year now. Pumping has not dimished the biggest one at all.
Probably smaller adds over time would give more control than 4 oz adds. It’s a trade off for control or for permanence.

Your pics look good. Nice tear drop shape instead of a cannonball shape. Do you have a significant other? Read what happened to boombermod on here. Its been hard for him

[Bobbybass]

Yes I do, but I won't have the same issue with my wife as boomer did with his. Because I'm not filling my cock as well. Just my sac. I would like to add a small amount to my cock possibly in the future, in while case I will definitely thin it out with saline so it spreads out nicely. But I would want just a little extra, I definitely would not go to huge sizes there. And that's if I never build up the nerve to try injecting my cock again. There's a good chance I'll never do it anyway honestly.
I'm quite content right now with just adding to my sac alone and is my main focus right now.

And will I'm writing. The tenderness is going away already. Last time it was a good 2 weeks before it dissipated . So I'm very pleased with that. The mass is remaining quite hard . But I know from previous times it will settle down in time, it will shrink and soften up. Just took a measurement and am at 13" if u lift my sack up it's even on both sides, like volume wise. But hanging the volume is in different placements so it looks uneven. But I feel I can make it better next time I add. Which may be sooner that I anticipated not that the tenderness is going away already. I have enough supplies on hand to add both sides 1 more time. And I may do it next week now. I have enough of everything except syringes to add another time after that as well. So in the next couple of days I'm going to order a box of syringes more catheters. I still have 5 or 6 tubes of sl but I'll order another 10 then I will be good on supplies for a long time. I still have some mini saline bags. I was considering ordering the prefilled syringes instead just to make the process even easier. But I have enough mini bags for a little while, and I'm starting to feel comfortable now that I have some size, that if I'm injecting into a mass that I don't feel the need to add saline first. Just straight sl will be fine.

[Bobbybass]

Little update. I was holding steady at 13 pretty good, yesterday morning still 13. Lastnight I could notice it was shrinking and I measured at 12. And it feels even smaller now, I didn't even want to measure this morning. What remains is hard as a rock. But I know from last time it will soften up over the next little bit.
When I'm nice and warm the skin is loose everywhere all around the hard spot. So I can add around it. However on my left side, where it's hard is a bit high, and when I look under it where I'd like to inject is just loaded with veins. I don't know how I will find a good spot there. On the right side, the hard spot is more in the middle of my sac and I won't have a issue adding more on the right side.
So I'm hoping Thursday or Friday I can do another add, maybe it well settle down a bit more and I'll be able to find a spot. I'm thinking of adding 40 or 50 per side this time.

[just4me]

Do you know what your starting size was? before you added anything?

50 per side is a LOT. thats a total of about 3.5 oz. when that swells its going to be massive fore a while.
You might want to talk to some of us who have done adds over 100cc to see what some of the quirks are.
I had some stupidly big ads and ended up over 16" full time for over a month. it was exciting and fun, till it wasnt.
Mixed feelings here:
1. wish i had kept wth smaller adds of 20-30 more often.
2. wish i had done one massive add of 250+ CC.

If you are okay with big encapsulation then 50 at once will stick around for a long time.
my encapsulation is tennis ball size the shape of a lemon.
Impossible to hide, especially since i've lost about 20 lbs. still gotta wear the baggy pants.

Its a process man. Keep us posted.