Another Surgilube Experience AND Warning

[Squirrel]

Hope I didnt step on your topic by posting my pic. I started surgilube back last February. I just added 30cc to left and 40cc to right. Trying to get right to hang as low as left side. Plan to add more this week. I love the heavy sac, I wear nothing or very loose pants.

No worries! The only reason I mentioned it is to help keep stories separated for folks starting to think about and research this. I don't want folks thinking my journey gets the incredible size from your pics, or your pics are tied to the complications I've described.

You've got an amazing package! Whether it's all SL or not, I'm sure folks would like to know how you got there.

And, from my experience, being "even" from side to side is impossible. I've been trying like hell since I started in November 2020. It may look even for a few days but predicting where it will settle and the size of the encapsulations is a roll of the dice.

[lonepmpr]

I started pumping back in 1999 and then went to saline infusions through the early 2000s. 2007 I did put in a little silicone but not much. For the last 10 years I've been doing D5 or d10 but as you know that doesn't last very long. So last year I started doing surgery Lube and that last up to 6 months. Cuz I'm retired I want to get as big as I can using surgery Lube

[yearonesummit]

Man, I kinda want to try Surgilube now

[Curiousaussie]

Hi all been reading all of the adventures you gents are having using sl and ky.
I am in awe of the results you have achieved. Can I just ask a few questions to get my head around how your injecting yourself.
With ball sack is it injected the same way as if you were jut using saline ?
With cock shaft if you pump before you inject can you just inject in the bloated area of the cock

[Squirrel]

Hi all been reading all of the adventures you gents are having using sl and ky.
I am in awe of the results you have achieved. Can I just ask a few questions to get my head around how your injecting yourself.
With ball sack is it injected the same way as if you were jut using saline ?
With cock shaft if you pump before you inject can you just inject in the bloated area of the cock

For balls, I started by injecting the same locations as I used to do with saline. Target is still far under the skin but avoiding the testicles. Equipment is different though. For saline, most folks use a bag hanging above them with a drip line and a butterfly needle that has a thin 12" line attached to it. There's about 8-10' of line between the product and the needle. Surgilube is much thicker, like regular KY lube. Because of that it won't flow on its own and needs to be pushed. Most of us doing SL use 10-20-30ml syringes with either a hypodermic needle or catheter/cannula directly attached to it. Like in plumbing, both line length, and smaller diameter lines cause flow restriction. SL can't even be pushed through just the 12" line attached to butterfly needles (I wish it could). For the first few adds I stayed with the normal saline infusion spots. As I got bigger and more uneven, I chose different injection points to try to even things out (with modest success).

For cock infusions we're trying to avoid the corpus cavernosa (part that fills with blood for an erection, and from being too close to the skin surface. It's requires pulling the skin up a lot to get the needle in a good spot. If you pump beforehand, needle placement is a bit easier in the bloated area. Just make sure to clean up any lube or lotion you may have used in the tube. I still suspect that unclean practices with SL can lead to more severe and prolonged infections vs an unclean saline infusion since this stuff sticks around longer and can block the body from getting to what it needs to fight off.

A couple other notes. A needle going through scrotum skin doesn't hurt much if at all. Not too many nerve endings in the skin there. The usual challenge is mentally getting over what you're doing. Pushing a needle through skin on the cock hurts/stings a lot more. More nerve endings for the sensation it's supposed to feel and act on. Choosing the right syringe size and needle gauges takes some experimentation for everyone. The size area of the plunger (syringe diameter) and the gauge of the needle both play a part on how hard it is to push. I use 20 or now 30ml syringes for balls with 20g catheter needles. For cock I use 10ml syringes and 22g needles (wanted the smaller gauge so the smaller syringe was necessary).

[Fortheloveoffat]

Really appreciate all the advice that’s been flowing on this topic lately!

Looking forward to trying myself in the near future.

Personally would like to avoid the bumpy look and so am considering a diluted KY in a saline bag. Essentially so that it goes in more like a saline infusion. I know a few have done this in the shaft but has anyone done a large diluted KY into the sack?

[gijoejw]

So I had that weird thing happen were I suddenly woke up a day later after I did a light pump and I swelled up to 21”. That is the biggest I’ve ever been. What ever reason I guess that last fill decided to encapsulate finally? Or again? I was crazy sore for a day or two. Not sure why this happens.

[Squirrel]

So I had that weird thing happen were I suddenly woke up a day later after I did a light pump and I swelled up to 21”. That is the biggest I’ve ever been. What ever reason I guess that last fill decided to encapsulate finally? Or again? I was crazy sore for a day or two. Not sure why this happens.

How long between the SL add and the pumping session? When you hit 21" did it kinda stay big for a couple days like a SL add, or did it go back down quick like pumping session?

[gijoejw]

I added SL about 4 weeks ago no pumping. I did a light pump and got to like 17” (I’ve been up to 19” prior to SL) In like 2 hours I exploded to 21”. It was like I had just injected more. Did not expect this to happen at all. It made my sac longer from top to bottom and I’ve measured this way alot but have never been that size. It was round and 19” like front to back. I was 21” for a day then I stayed over 18” for 3 days. Then finally it started going down. It encapsulated hard and I can feel it more at the bottom of the sac. Man was I sore! It was annnngry when it swelled up skin was like oh god. No fever not sick. Im still 17” lol… bigger than I was dealing with. My best guess is it didn’t encapsulate and the pump activated it.

I was too big it was like oh shitttt. Way rounder than normal and I couldn’t hide it. Better now but still I can tell a difference. Gonna take a while and see how it goes no fills.

[Squirrel]

Update. It's been a month since the last add in my balls and another month before that for the one before. Both were big adds though (details in pictures). The last two adds have made it impossible to hide my bulge. My pants hang weird and "something" is visible even if pants are really baggy and I'm wearing a long untucked shirt. I'll be taking a break for a while to let this shrink so I don't risk any uncomfortable conversations at work.

Left side is very forward and what I can't hide any more. Right side is bigger but takes up all space from below the balls in front to my perineum. The right always needs to be tucked but pushes the left more forward. Basically I'm trying trying to balance looking like I have a bulge in the front or a bulge in the back.

I'm still super happy with my experience but have hit the limit to be somewhat incognito.

[Squirrel]

Also, no major complications to report from SL or size other than it's REALLY EASY TO NICK THE SKIN WHEN SHAVING BALLS. Especially on the lumpy spots that stick out a little bit.

I have noticed that it takes a lot longer for my sack to loosen up with warmth. More mass, means more time for outside temp to affect it. Cold Midwest (US) days make them shrink up and protrude more forward. Insulated pants and warm base layer underwear don't help after about an hour outside. If I want to warm them up so it hangs lower it takes way more time and/or way more heat. When I wake up from my warm bed it's MASSIVE (but kinda hideable since it's loose). As the day goes on and they aren't warmed it shrinks up and pushes forward.

The only other notable change that'll probably be with me forever is that veins on the bottom of my balls are VERY pronounced. They stand out like a bodybuilders bicep veins, just not that exaggerated. Lots of purple veins 2-3mm are right at the surface.

I'll take cold, end of day, and warm, just woke up, measurement pics to add soon. It's a BIG difference.

[Taurox]

Wow, so big! Your dick is pretty huge around too. When was the last time you added there?

[Squirrel]

Last add to my dick was on 11/16/22. I did another about 15 days before that. Full history of adds and where they were is pictured. It's WAY wider when I'm hard. I'll try to add a pic or two to show that when I put up the cold/warm balls measurement pics.

Before the last two adds to my dick, it was somewhat big but still usable with my wife. Now I don't fit. While it's still super fun for me by myself, I won't get this big again for the sake of fun at home. Pumping or saline to have temporary personal fun is much better for long term relationship fun.

[gijoejw]

Same thing happens to me right side is a little bigger so it wants to like stick out more. I’m finally getting more soft per se the body consumes what it can. I might do another fill but I’m already a little too big and if I pump I hit 21” and I’m enormous for a week. It does take longer for my sac to warm up and be soft.

[Squirrel]

Here's some pictures taken this morning as warm and loose as possible. The captions describe how I'm positioned. Cock pics here. Balls post next.