My name is NullFox, and I recently stumbled upon your forum during one of my many nights of insomnia-fuled web surfing. I liked what I saw and decided to join. I hope to make friends, while I'm here. You all seem very nice.
On to the meat of my post: I'm a gender nonconforming trans individual, assigned male at birth, who is looking for resources for transitioning into the nullo gender. To that end, I have already had an orchiectomy, and gotten on low dose E to prevent bone loss. However, I know I won't feel truly happy until I have a full penectomy procedure. Does anybody have any resources for how to get it done? I know it's not as underground as it used to be, but it's still hard to find any resources. I might ask, again, in the personals subforum.
Thank you, again. I'm looking forward to hearing from you.
It will be interesting to see the responses you get here as the site seems pretty quiet on genital mods and transitioning to nullo gender.
From what you wrote it appears that you are not looking to be female but genderless. I'm curious as to if you still have and desires in regard to sexual pleasure. I do find the concept of being genderless very interesting and looking to learn more.
I myself have been into genital body mods for many years and performed numerous modifications on myself including permanent body hair removal, a urethral reroute to the top of my scrotum with my old urethra permanently blocked off and most recently removing my glans. My modifications would have been almost impossible to have done by a medical professional (so needed to be self done) but I would suspect modifications pertaining to gender issues would be pretty easy to get done these days. The biggest factors would be cost and the patience to go through all of the steps necessary. Nevertheless I have seen numerous links to clinics that perform gender modifications (even in the USA).
Yes, you are correct. I am more interested in full penectomy than just modification, although I have considered both in the past. As for sexual pleasure, for personal reasons, I've never been all that interested in preserving it. I suppose those reasons also overlap with why I want to be genderless, but I'm no psychologist.
I see that you have experience performing mods. I'd love to hear more about it, if you're interested in telling me your experience. If that would make you uncomfortable, that's fine too. I ask because, as you said, getting a procedure like this done would be both expensive and require jumping though many hoops. Self-surgery might be an option for me.
I too tried a self mod but didnt get to complete it. ended up in a hospital where they repaired it which i dint like as iwanted it removed
after 3 days on a 72 hour phyc hold iwas sent to a behavior center, phyc hospital for 10 days. only got out because of covid
I stillwnat to do more mods but the next time if I go to a hospital sooner than 3 years it means anothe mandatory involuntary confinment for up to a year
it would take 2 shrinks and a judge to let you out
I would want to jump into this discussion.
I am from India and here it not legal to go for gender change operation or even if it is legal i do not have clear idea how to go about it as it is too complex and it would require to much money to get permission and in the process.
I have always known from as long as i remember that i dont want the balls and the dick and i want to be complete nullo down there. I have always hated my balls so much so that i got into needles into my balls at very early age only. but now i love ball torture i know its confusing. even while writing this msg i do not know how to express my feeling.
In India we have many slum doctors who does this kind of illegal castration operations but they are not safe and not at all hygienic so I am scared to go for them. I even got the address of one such doctors but the conditions there were not good and he was charging more than 1.5 lakh (2000 USD approx) and he told he cannot confirm that the operation will be successful so I left that route.
I have many times thought of cutting my cock and balls by myself only but the thought itself scares me. Now banding is the final solution I have thought about just like the castration of goats.
I have banded 4 time till now and I can bear pain i know but whatever i do i cannot bear the pain after 20 minutes and i have to cut the band. 20 minutes is not enough. I guess if i can get pass 2 hours after that the balls will be dead then i have keep the band for more number of days till th eballs fall off like the goats. I dont know when I will be free of my cock and balls and i t will be smooth down there.
It makes me sick to my stomach to hear how governments (and other people) want to tell others what they can and cannot do with their own lives and bodies. Usually it is the same people who have no idea as to how to live their own lives in a rational and happy way. In those cases people are unhappy with their own lives and want other people to be miserable also. I live by the rule that people must be free to do as they want in life so long as it doesn't have a significant negative impact on others.
Because removing one's genitals can be life threatening if self done medical options need to be available. Not wanting one's genitals is no different than not wanting a wart on one's face or other part of their body. It is also something that can be done with little risk in a medical setting. Certainly implanting a foreign object in one's body (e.g. breast implants) can be more risky.
As someone who has had experience in that regard I will say that removing parts of, or entire genitals, can be life threatening. Even I knew that I didn't want to die in order to remove my glans so that I could improve my sexual enjoyment. Consequently, I was forced to learn how and prepare to do it as safely as possible and without a trip to the hospital. Still the risk of having to go to the hospital existed. Fortunately I was lucky and adverted that.
My biggest dream is a complete penis removal. When I started penismods 2006, I couldn't imagine that one day I would want this. When I realized that I wanted to
absolutely nullo, I knew I needed help with that. I have done almost everything myself, the only help I have received was laser hair removal and testicle removal.
The plan is to go through the gender change process, but it's a little scary to go for it at this age.
I wonder if any older men, 60-70+ who are perhaps, widowers, alone, whose wives are sexually incapacitated or otherwise unable to have sex, or perhaps for other personal reasons, these men have no further interest in pursing any kind of romantic or sexual relationship, and would like to become a "nullo," or something similar. Depending on the man's attitude, and temperament, it could have several other positive benefits, such as stopping a porn addiction, or other unwholesome sexual interests or pursuits, such as seeking the services of prostitutes. It could end once and for all, the inevitable comparisons men make between their present diminished sexual abilities and the capabilities of their prime younger years. If everything is gone, there is nothing to compare, and getting rid of it all would be a conscious choice of the individual, not the result of the inevitable, creeping fingers of the aging process. With review, and a waiting period, I think these mods should be medically available to older men.
Addigo - I agree with you 100%. Things change in life and what was once necessary may no longer be needed. I would find it exciting to live a part of my life with genitals and a part of it without them. For me, my glans removal and the changes it has brought about, make me feel like I am starting all over at puberty with a new body to explore.
My concern though has been with the need for hormones to maintain the other proper body functions. If artificial T is taken for that then the sex drive will still be present. I do know that the entire body and mind can be sexual and a penis and testicles are not necessary for sex but if the reason for removing genitals was to eliminate the sex drive that seems to be self defeating. I also feel like the comparisons you talk about would still exist but your correct in that removing sexual desires being the conscious choice of the individual rather than nature would put the mind at ease about such matters.
I also feel that other than aging there could be valid reasons for penectomy or nullification therefore that type of procedure should be available to men as is breast enlargement/reduction for women. Women can have their breasts removed to prevent the risk of cancer so why cannot men have their testicles removed for the same reasons.
Yes, your points are valid. Sex is in the mind, but a conscious choice to get rid of the sexual apparatus would go a long way toward reducing it. I also think you may be underestimating the effect of drastically reducing or eliminating T on the mindset regarding sex. In addition, the psychological effect of castration would make him more inclined to behave the way he thought castrated men were "supposed to" behave, and there would probably be some considerable placebo effect to this as well, that would probably make him more subdued.
Yes I do think replacement T could be problematic, but it seems to me that castration would give much greater control over T levels. SPECULATION: Ideally, a man, especially one who is middle aged or older, should be able to have himself castrated by a doctor in a medical setting. Then, his T level should be carefuly monitored by an endocrinologist. Perhaps the doc could start with full T replacement, until the man has fully recovered from surgery. At this time, the doc could begin to slowly reduce the T levels to give the man time to adjust to each reduction. The reduction would proceed for perhaps a year or so, until the man reched the lowest possible level at which he could be reasonably free of ill effects, as monitored by the doctor, but still have a greatly reduced sex drive and sexual interest. Of course the doctor might also reinforce the placebo effect, by making statements about his or her experience with castrated men, and changes in the castrated man's behavior the doc would excpect to see. For example the doc or nurse could say, "You seem to be much calmer now, much less aggressive," or "I've noticed you're not looking at women the same way as before." If the man was married, his wife could help a lot in this regard as well, as could the man himself with autosuggestion, ie "I'm castrated now; castrated men aren't interested in that." This would go a long way toward reinforcing the effects of castration, even if the castrated man knew what the was going on.
As for penectomy. I think historically many if not most eunuchs also lost part or all of their penises. Partial or full penectomy should also be available in a medical setting. I think penectomy should be progressive, that is first part or all of the glans removed. If he's okay with that, then he could request more extensive removal of the penis. IMO some kind of stump should be left.
NuderThanNude, as you have shown, it is still possible to be sexually active with the glans removed. Perhaps castration and a glansectory would a good stopping place for many men.
The question in my mind at this point is that if full T were restored could a castrated man who still had some semblance of a penis become sexually active again?
In this case a man who was castrated and had a glansectomy, depending on his age and general health could be sexually active again although he would be sterile. I'm not sure if this is possible or practical. In general, I think castration should be thought of as permanent, and any degree of a penectomy IS permanent.
I guess the question comes down to - can a level of T be reached that provides for good health without creating sexual interest?
Another thing that comes to my mind is if a guy desires to eliminate his sexual interest due to age, are there not better ways to accomplish this without removing body parts. I have had several occasions during my life where due to not having time to think about sex I had totally lost interest. When I would realize what was happening I would make a conscious effort to get it back (as sexual interest is important to me) and it then seemed to take a lot of effort to accomplish. During those times my penis was nothing more than a method of peeing and my balls were nothing more than a nuisance. So the question becomes one of "can a person accomplish the same as a nullification" (with the complications and risks) by just changing their interests? I think that if a person can suppress those sexual interests for a period of time they will over time have less and less interest. My interest in sex is because I want to have an interest in sex.
as i posted before , itried cutting my penis off twice but dont want to back to phyc hospital again
I am trying to doit by banding and would love to get an elastrator or even buy or make a buizzo.
i can bad for up to 4 hours but still not tight enoug
i would be more than happy eunuch but really want trans
ialso have boobs fro 12 years of hrt now just on reular meds that do the same thing but notas strong.currently a 44c and weaar bra and panties daily for medical reasons
if i could get everything removed , iwould want afull depth vagina if possible
"as i posted before , itried cutting my penis off twice but dont want to back to phyc hospital again
I am trying to doit by banding and would love to get an elastrator or even buy or make a buizzo.
i can bad for up to 4 hours but still not tight enoug
i would be more than happy eunuch but really want trans"
You won't become a "eunuch" by cutting off your penis.
