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Bluedot11
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Question about closing holes

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hello everyone , i started saline infusion recently already tried 500 and 1000 session , today i ve tried 2000 i always used 21g butterfly needle with no problem , but this time i ve 1 19g butterfly and a 16g and at the end of the infusion i ve seen that the 2 access are bleeding a little and drops of water out i ve tried some band-aid and a narrow medical gauze with plaster but it still slowly dropping even after 8 hour , any idea of what i can do? i ve tried even to apply pressure for 5-10 min but nothing
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Hold some gauze over the sites for 15 minutes at a time until they stop leaking.
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Post pics.
It sounds like you simply have too much internal pressure.
Get your body core warm as well as your bag.
If you are tied off with a strap, remove it to allow the fluid to flow freely into your body.
Hopefully you will not experience blistering or weeping.
I have had delicious results with only 1300 ml of Dex for four days now.
Less is more,
…Enjoyable
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It's simple, take simple tools that everyone has, add perfume to the tampon (must be alcoholic, alcohol narrows the blood vessels), and apply it to the hole and press it, you need to hold it for a couple of minutes! Bleeding should stop, and the flow is good, but it may sting a little)))
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Thanks for the answers , lucky the bleeding was only few droplets of blood sometime while the saline exiting from the hole was a much more , applyed some new bandaid and wrapped evrything with a towel and it stopped in the next morning , for safety i took a pair of antibiotic .

Now evrything looks clear theres just a little dark patch on the skin of the scrotum but i think is probably a broken vassel it dosent hurt anyway .

About pics maybe is better not , dunno why but i already got banned for no reason from this forum last month when i posted them with my beautician on the saline infusions.

Anyway lesson learned next time i will just stick with just 2x 21g needle but maybe i will try to use some 3-WAY TAP so i can use 2x500ml on the same line
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Yeah if you nick a vein you can get some bruising. Even bad bruising can clear up within a week or so, but it doesn't look great.

21g needles are tiny, they can take a long time to infuse. if you are patient it's not so bad but I prefer a quicker infusion. i use 19g catheters. with a drop of SuperGlue on my bandage the injection wound stays sealed, even with a dextrose infusion that swells up after finishing. Some find this approach excessive but it really works well for me.
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mRuss wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:27 am Yeah if you nick a vein you can get some bruising. Even bad bruising can clear up within a week or so, but it doesn't look great.

21g needles are tiny, they can take a long time to infuse. if you are patient it's not so bad but I prefer a quicker infusion. i use 19g catheters. with a drop of SuperGlue on my bandage the injection wound stays sealed, even with a dextrose infusion that swells up after finishing. Some find this approach excessive but it really works well for me.
im not sure if i nick some vein since i didnt feeled any pain . probably some vassel just broke becouse the scrotum expanded too much ,
what do you mean for "superglue"? is that Loctite? and how did you remove then the glue?
isnt it dangerous if it enter inside the body?

I even tryed the rock alum ( the one used for beard ) but got no luck , probably the pressure was too hight

i know the 21g butterfly are tiny but never got any issue with closing them on the other infusion , anyway i took the time and the line with the 16g was very fast like 500 ml in less then 20 min lol
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what do you mean for "superglue"? is that Loctite? and how did you remove then the glue?
isnt it dangerous if it enter inside the body?
Super glue is a general name for a particular type of fast acting glue. Loctite is a type of super glue yes.
It instantly bonds with skin (And I mean instantly) and will seal holes. I recommend Liquid Bandage, since its a medical form of Super Glue. It cures in seconds and seals the wound shut.
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pornyporn wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:37 am I recommend Liquid Bandage, since its a medical form of Super Glue. It cures in seconds and seals the wound shut.
I never heard about that liquid bandage , thanks for the info im going to buy them next time
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i ve seen that there are waterprof bandaid too on amazon , anyone tried them?
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Bluedot11 wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:01 am i ve seen that there are waterprof bandaid too on amazon , anyone tried them?
Yes I also use the waterproof bandages and they work well, as long as the injection wound stays closed. If the wound leaks then the waterproof glue might not hold (some bandages last 12 hours, other brands are not as strong.

There are varieties of "super glue" that take a minute to dry - that is the variety I use. The cheaper variety dries too fast and is not comfortable after it dries. If you apply it correctly there is no risk of anything entering the wound.
I have not tried "Liquid Bandage" yet but I will get some to try it out. Depending on how strong it is it might be perfect.

and yes, 16g would be a MUCH bigger needle and much faster to infuse, but more difficult to seal. My preferred size is 20g.
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and how did you remove the superglue when the hole seal itself? it will just drop or you have to use some oil?

Anyway this is a photo of our wax and infusion session with my beautican , she used 3 19g butterfly and 1 16G , she also wanted to try a 14g too , luckly i said " lets just 16g first "
i hope i will not get banned again
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we didnt made a photo of full filled since it was dripping too much so we choosed to wrap all with bandage
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I guess you were in a hurry.
3 Infusion points all at once.

I would stick to one infusion point either a 20G or 19G.
I prefer catheters over butterfly needles.

Taking in 3 L all at once will create a lot of sudden pressure.
I find its better to take it slow.
even when I reach 24 to 26" i can get a seal in 15 to 20 minutes in most cases.
If not I use a dab of crazy glue on wax paper and pull on some 2XL depends and wait it out.
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well we had 3 hour but i think we spent 1,5 for all infusion probably , it was 4 infusion point ,
what do you mean for catheters needle? normal hypodermic needle? i never tryied them . aren't them hard to keeo in place?
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Bluedot11 wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:01 am well we had 3 hour but i think we spent 1,5 for all infusion probably , it was 4 infusion point ,
what do you mean for catheters needle? normal hypodermic needle? i never tryied them . aren't them hard to keeo in place?
Catheter is a plastic tube with a need in side. You use the needle to break the skin and guide the plastic tube in.
I typically use 1.5" 18G Catheters. They stay in place nicely.
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