Sorry to hear you didn't have the success that you wanted. I personally have never had weird migration like that. I used to be much heavier at one time. I lost about 50 lbs of fat and then started putting on some muscle. So I often wonder if it's just my fat cells plumping up again. Are you on the leaner side? Have you ever carried much weight around your torso?failbucket wrote: ↑Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:51 pmThese photos turn me on soooo much! I've tried this twice now since seeing your post, but haven't yet achieved what I want. First time, I placed the needles about the same spot you did, did 2l, however everything stayed really high, and it took nearly 24 hours to settle and when it did it had migrated around the sides and back. Didn't get very big, just "funny lookin" HAHA. Second time, I moved to a single spot about 3" above my navel. Only did 1l because I'm running out of supplies (like everyone). Turned out much better (stayed in front and as more round), and I think if I had done 2l it would have been amazing, problem was it literally took like 5+ hours to do just the 1l (and that's even with an 18g needle). By that time I was so tired I had no time to play with it and just went to bed. Seems mine doesn't absorb very fast though. I was still pretty big in the morning, but not "BIG" big like I want. For me, it takes about 3 days to get back to normal (like a soft normal), and about a week to be back to my usual 6-pack. I think next time, I'll use my pressure infuser and use dextrose to add some additional gains after the fact.
Question: can you describe in explicit detail your experience with needle angle? First try, I pinched the skin between my fingers to form quite a big mound of skin. After a few mm of depth I felt a slight pop as the needle passed through the skin layers and then all the pressure of the needle went away and the rest of it pushed in easily. Second try I decided to go more shallow. I did the same thing, but further down my belly, and never really felt that same "pop" but mostly a light pressure as I inserted the entire length of the needle. I'm sure this had something to do with why things ran so slow. It was a very constant drip, I thought similar to when I infuse my balls, but I'm not sure why it took so long. Any additional help would be appreciated.
No photos yet because I'm still experimenting, but I'll get some soon as I have the results I want. Running out of supplies! Help, where can I find more?
And 5+ hours is a CRAZY long time for an infusion. I'm not exactly sure why. It usually takes about an hour for me to get in 1 litre of 5% dextrose. That always goes in faster and easier than saline. It also doesn't take a week to go down. Mine is virtually gone after 48 hours. Sooner if I go to the gym and do some cardio. I think this goes to show how different results can be among individuals. I'm still loving the results of mine. I should post some new pictures soon.
Regarding needle angle: I tend to go fairly shallow, almost to the point the needle is perpendicular to the skin after entry. That's why I ensure the whole area is swabbed with alcohol and any hairs are trimmed away. Typically, after swabbing the area, I'll create a fold of fat in the skin where the needle will penetrate. The fold is perpendicular to the direction of the needle. I never feel a pop, but it can be very sensitive and even painful as the catheter is piercing the skin. If it hurts too much, even just by resting the tip on the skin, I'll move the needle a bit to avoid the nerve ending. Once it pierces the skin, I slide it in almost parallel to my skin while always making sure it's hitting the subcutaneous layer by moving the fold of fat down and along the path of insertion. And yes, I feel a light pressure the entire length that it goes in. Generally, I find the shallower the needle, the faster the flow rate. I tend to get a bit of an orange-peel texture to the skin as it swells, but it goes away.