tigerdave cool that you [email protected]
thanks a lot for your pumping guide...it headed me in the right direction.
always nice having vets around who know what they are talking about.
i do kegel a lot too while i pump up. especially when i slap my cock inside the tube.
i dont know if you understand kingsnakes motivation to pump.
he doesnt want to pump to be pumped, he wants to gain and use it as a tool for it.
he seeks the gains 48hours after the initial session.
as your advice is great for getting the maximum pump with least fluid build-up as possible, i dont think you would gain.
in my limited experience (i am pretty good reading my body signals/used to competitive training), i would expect with this concept to have incredible gains in the tube but not so much outside of it.
i think key is having a erection as hard as possible for the longest period to maintain it (in my case 30mins) and expand as much "naturally" as you can.
therefore the training around the pumping is so important. you do whatever to gain and use the pump to translate them into a erection.
for example i did a stretching-routine and i grow mm for mm in the tube while doing it.
so i tried to teach my cock to use the stretch to convert it in a maximum erection in the pump.
i think it works.
so the difficulty is to find a routine to expand to get to the maximum out the pump before the rockhard erection subsides.
thats why overpacking is such a genious concept (see prelude ) because you can hold a simulated hardcore erection for a much longer time than the 30mins.
otherwise it would make more sense to enter semi-hard, use pressure between 3-5hg and staying longer in the tube (1hour+) what i imagine could helping making more likely flaccid gains (but not so sure about it because it s not in my focus).
if you think i am wrong, i would really like to be corrected by your insights.
by the way how much did you gain over the years?
moreover in german forums the most popular theory is to gain length flaccid first until you are about an 0,5-1 inch (most concentrate on a gap between 1-1,5cm) longer flaccid stretched than erected and then switching to girth only to convert it to erected lenght.
afterwards repeating the cycle when the erected length catched up with the flaccid stretch size.
conclusion would be therefore avoiding jelqs etc for length gaining period.
most of the vets are switching to this routine to get over their plateaus.
maybe something to consider kingsnake.
ps: i you want me to remove the pics....i will do instantly.didnt intent to disrepect your thread.